rite aid open 24 hrs

[LUCas]

i find their prices pretty reasonable

Didn't say they weren't. Said I hope they have to raise them and they go out of business. Their management is horrible, they repaved their parking lot at 2AM, with jack hammers.

and the shelves pretty well stocked. they do run out of refrigerated items pretty quickly though.

They're usually out of anything I go in there for.

they need to expand the building because theres no storeroom.

Not true, they have a basement and they have a large shipping container parked in the lot.

i appreciate having sundries available conveniently at a reasonable price.

So do I, I just don't appreciate the way they treat their neighbors.

seems to me the bums pissing arent shopping at rite aid

Actually, they are. The guy I'm thinking of with the thick glasses is always in there, and then out front pan handling, and then out back pissing, and then across the street at the liquor store.

maybe you should start calling the cops on them instead of the people working at the store.

Maybe I have and maybe the cops didn't do anything. And I never called the cops on the people working at the store, most of them I like. I don't like their corporate people who have no problem ordering construction for the middle of the night, repeatedly promise not to do it anymore, and do it anyway.

there are bums in front of the post office and liquor store as well. oh wait...it must be rite aids fault. definitely their fault the pizza shop customers throw trash all over the parking lot

it's certainly their fault they A) let the pizza shop customers park in their lot and B) don't clean it up

[LUCas]

Wow. So we are complaining about a store having extended hours.

I have no problem with extended hours as long as it's a different business. The one there now sucks.

[citygirl]

I was not aware that Rite Aid planned this - do they have a sign posted? This is exactly the kind of issue a civic association can help with. We do not have to meekly accept that Rite Aid - or any other chain - can do whatever it wants in our neighborhood. The Spring Garden Civic Association is the local association, and should hear about these problems. The begging, trash, middle of the night repaving are all issues that should not be occuring. I personally have told the pharmacist about the persistent begging, and regularly mention that the trash bins are overflowing. They don't like the begging either, but on one occasion when he went out to tell the woman to leave - you all know who I mean - she yelled at me when I came out. Why do we tolerate this?

The Center City Residents Association mounted an effective protest when 7-11 planned a 24 hr store at 22nd and Lombard, and while they were not able to prevent it, did win a great many concessions, regarding trash pick-up hours, the cleanliness of the area surrounding the store, signage, lighting, and other issues. There is not a parking lot there, so that wasn't addressed, but all the items mentioned above would be best addressed by a civic association, which can leverage its power with local politicians and the corporate Rite Aid. The association later was able to point to the agreement when they started slacking off, and they were forced to toe the line.

Spring Garden Civic Association is having its meeting tomorrow evening at 7:00, if I remember correctly, at the church at 19th & Wallace. We should all show up and complain. They need to hear about these problems. They have clout we as individuals don't, and they also, as the recognized civic association, have the ear of politicians. It's our association - I say we charge them with this task and support them as they do so.

[Moonraker]

Greetings,

I shared this thread with a retired Eckerd executive. Her comment was simple:
Our main issue with 24 hour Pharmacies is that they are likely theft targets. Leaving them open at night increases the likelihood of crimes. The safety of our employees was and is our highest concern.

[Titus]

Spring Garden Civic Association is having its meeting tomorrow evening at 7:00, if I remember correctly, at the church at 19th & Wallace. We should all show up and complain. They need to hear about these problems. They have clout we as individuals don't, and they also, as the recognized civic association, have the ear of politicians. It's our association - I say we charge them with this task and support them as they do so.

SGCA Meeting - Thursday the 15th.

[citygirl]

Yes, Thursday. Thank you for the correction, Titus!

[nyctransplant]

That stretch of Fairmount Ave seems particularly bad with bums. I cannot tell you how many problems I have had outside Rite Aid, Fairmount Pizza, the Post Office, and the Liquor Store. Then of course, there's the gem of a bar on Fairmount and 17th. I'm not sure how much the store owners can do about this. There is a larger issue here, and it's not tied to any one business. I don't know what the answer is, or if there even is an answer, but I don't think it's fair to blame any one place for this problem.

However, other issues, such as overnight jackhammering and the trash, are a different matter.

[RittenhouseGirl]

i believe i missed your point.

Why are we bringing meat products into this convo?

lol

[RittenhouseGirl]

Having stores open 24 hours seems like a normal thing to me.

NYC is loaded with stores open 24-7. Philadelphia is a major city, so I think it makes sense that we have them too.

Of course, it seems there are other issues at play here ...

[dcss1205]

NYC is loaded with stores open 24-7. Philadelphia is a major city, so I think it makes sense that we have them too.
Of course, it seems there are other issues at play here ...

NYC has a large population which works 3rd shift, and day sleepers. To paraphrase Mr. Sinatra, NY is a city that never sleeps.
Baltimore, DC, Boston's immediate boroughs all go somewhat dormant.

[eldondre]

That stretch of Fairmount Ave seems particularly bad with bums. I cannot tell you how many problems I have had outside Rite Aid, Fairmount Pizza, the Post Office, and the Liquor Store. Then of course, there's the gem of a bar on Fairmount and 17th. I'm not sure how much the store owners can do about this. There is a larger issue here, and it's not tied to any one business. I don't know what the answer is, or if there even is an answer, but I don't think it's fair to blame any one place for this problem.

I hang out at the 17 spot occasionally (less than I used to). to be honest, I've never had anyone beg me for change at 17th and fairmount nor have I had any issues there. for a time there was dealing there but the bar mgr did his best to chase them off, and it seems to have worked, mostly (though there's corner dealing at wallace anyway). I walk by there A LOT since I live close by. the only place I encouter bums is rite aid, post office, liquor store. I'd guess the liquor store is the magnet but the city health clinic could play a part. you're correct, it is a larger issue.

super NIMBY to the rescue!!

I was not aware that Rite Aid planned this - do they have a sign posted?

yes, there's a sign, and it's not planned, it's already happened. how bad can it be, you didn't even know.

This is exactly the kind of issue a civic association can help with. We do not have to meekly accept that Rite Aid - or any other chain - can do whatever it wants in our neighborhood.

ah, so the problem is it's a chain?

The begging, trash, middle of the night repaving are all issues that should not be occuring. I personally have told the pharmacist about the persistent begging, and regularly mention that the trash bins are overflowing. They don't like the begging either, but on one occasion when he went out to tell the woman to leave - you all know who I mean - she yelled at me when I came out. Why do we tolerate this?

that's right, but it's unfair to expect one business to eliminate it. teh cdc could help, particularly with the trash. does rite aid contribute to the cdc? where is there repaving?

The Center City Residents Association mounted an effective protest when 7-11 planned a 24 hr store at 22nd and Lombard, and while they were not able to prevent it, did win a great many concessions, regarding trash pick-up hours, the cleanliness of the area surrounding the store, signage, lighting, and other issues.

so you're proposing to black mail rite aid? have trash pickup times changed or are they the same? just because the store is 24 hours doesn't mean any of these things has changed.

Spring Garden Civic Association is having its meeting tomorrow evening at 7:00, if I remember correctly, at the church at 19th & Wallace. We should all show up and complain. They need to hear about these problems. They have clout we as individuals don't, and they also, as the recognized civic association, have the ear of politicians. It's our association - I say we charge them with this task and support them as they do so.

I'lll try to show up to counter the kneejerk contingent.

[eldondre]

Said I hope they have to raise them and they go out of business. Their management is horrible, they repaved their parking lot at 2AM, with jack hammers.

that does suck, they I don't hope they go out of business.

Actually, they are. The guy I'm thinking of with the thick glasses is always in there, and then out front pan handling, and then out back pissing, and then across the street at the liquor store.

you just contradicted yourself. they aren't shopping at rite aid, they're bumming money for the liquor store. thankfully we have a state system that will work to confront these issues right away..plus the responsive city services will get right on it as well.

it's certainly their fault they A) let the pizza shop customers park in their lot and B) don't clean it up

so what do you propose they do about it? I agree, corp isn't the best, and obviously the chain has had its share of financial problems (starting with fraud) that have probably kept it from reinvesting in its stores. I actually find the pharmacists and employees to be pretty good people and without the store they'd be without a job. as noted, I think the whole store needs an overhaul. if it were me, I'd expand the store to the corner and put the parking on top of the store (a la fresh grocer). of all the issues, it would seem the new hours are the least of the problems.

[BBQ KING]

The last 2 posts make sense.
I am a little concerned that no one has mentioned how Rite Aid should be required to build a dog park. Come on people.....


The paving thing seems like crap and it is a little strong on the begging side. I am unaware of the exact opening dates nor the if the can serve, but with the coffee shop and and new resturaunt going in, there seems to be an opportunity.

The MugShots people have kept what was once a not so nice corner nice. Maybe someone who lives in the immediate area could send them a note and encourage them to be a shining example. If the new Blue Cat is BYOB, maybe this tips the scale and the wine store goes a little more premium (assuimng premium could squeeze out some of the low cost stuff). Hickory Lane is a block the other way. Maybe a note to the respective owners to see if they can influence what the wine shope carries (and may influence the customer base).

Now that my urbanist social engineering project is complete, I will go polish my monocle

Regardless, I do not see 24 Hour Rite Aid having a negative impact.

[radiocolin]

1. Rite-Aid at 19th & Hamilton, and 23rd & Walnut are open to 10:00 weekdays,

When I moved out last year, 23rd and Walnut was open 24 hours.

[citygirl]

I've no objection to the 24 hour Rite Aid, and never said I did. I merely wanted to point out that the begging and trashy parking lot is a chronic problem and a civic association might be of assistance in addressing it. I encounter the same beggers outside the liquor store and realize that Rite Aid alone is not responsible. Again, the civic association has clout if they use it, and it might make sense to include all the problem businesses at the same time.

The trash is atrocious, and though they are not responsible for the pizza customers' trash, they can empty the cans more frequently and sweep up occasionally. Fairmount Pizza steps up and sends its employees out to clean their sidewalk many times a day - though I doubt they'd walk across 20th St to clean up their bags and napkins on Rite Aid's.

The mention of the Center City 7-11 episode was merely to show what can be accomplished by talking to the corporation through a civic association, not to pin those particular issues on Rite Aid.

[LUCas]

you just contradicted yourself. they aren't shopping at rite aid, they're bumming money for the liquor store.

No, I didn't. It's actually possible for someone to go to both places. I've done it myself. I've seen him inside Rite-aid using his debit card to buy stuff. I've ALSO seen him at the liquor store, buying stuff with his debit card. I've also seen him pan handling. And I didn't need to warp space-time or anything!

so what do you propose they do about it?

Fine the living heck out of them every day there's trash in their lot, overflowing from their unlocked dumpster area which is where the bums go to piss.

I actually find the pharmacists and employees to be pretty good people

Most of them are, I agree. Except the one pharmacist who refused to accept the used syringe I picked up from their lot (wearing gloves and putting it in a conveniently located empty soda bottle also in their lot) to dispose of in their medical waste. He said it wasn't their responsibility. I dropped it on the floor and left. It's probably still there a year later.

and without the store they'd be without a job.

Not my problem. There are lots of crappy, irresponsibly businesses that emply people. I'm not going to support them just because they do.

of all the issues, it would seem the new hours are the least of the problems.

I agree, they have lots of other issues. I don't know why you keep harping on me becasue I pointed them out. If you're happy with the store, fine, I'm not. And I'm entitled to my opinion and to express it.

[eldondre]

ah, it sounded like you were upset they were staying open.
someone posted in manayunk that their rite aid will also be open 24 hours.
re: trash, yes it needs to be addressed, and yes, it seems like a job for the civic to get the business together to find a solution since the city doesn't see fit to provide this small business district with trash cans that are emptied regularly. what about a big belly?

[eldondre]

No, I didn't. It's actually possible for someone to go to both places. I've done it myself. I've seen him inside Rite-aid using his debit card to buy stuff. I've ALSO seen him at the liquor store, buying stuff with his debit card. I've also seen him pan handling. And I didn't need to warp space-time or anything!

ah, a pha resident.

Fine the living heck out of them every day there's trash in their lot, overflowing from their unlocked dumpster area which is where the bums go to piss.

haven't noticed, usually walk by and see the pizza trash.

Most of them are, I agree. Except the one pharmacist who refused to accept the used syringe I picked up from their lot (wearing gloves and putting it in a conveniently located empty soda bottle also in their lot) to dispose of in their medical waste. He said it wasn't their responsibility. I dropped it on the floor and left. It's probably still there a year later.

doubt it. we've gotten personal service, almost like you'd expect from a mom and pop.

Not my problem. There are lots of crappy, irresponsibly businesses that emply people. I'm not going to support them just because they do.

and the problems with jackhammering aren't their problem (nor mine). as noted, it suits my needs fine and employs good people. so for me, it's not a particularly crappy business. if you don't care about them, why should they care about you?

I agree, they have lots of other issues. I don't know why you keep harping on me becasue I pointed them out. If you're happy with the store, fine, I'm not. And I'm entitled to my opinion and to express it.

I suspect they're all related. lack of money leads to lack of investment, uncertain future leads to tough to retain or acquire talent. if the parent becomes healthy, I suspect it will show in the stores.

The MugShots people have kept what was once a not so nice corner nice. Maybe someone who lives in the immediate area could send them a note and encourage them to be a shining example. If the new Blue Cat is BYOB, maybe this tips the scale and the wine store goes a little more premium (assuimng premium could squeeze out some of the low cost stuff).

mug shots is also moving to 20th and fairmount fwiw. hard to believe that crapbox of a liquor store doesn't move..one would assume the landlord is politically connected given its clients (post office, state store, credit union)

[AbortedWalrus]

Holy crap, the very idea of a Civic Association having a say in how businesses conduct themselves kind of disgusts me. It's not the businesses responsibility to deal with panhandlers on public property. Yes, the garbage is overflowing, but it's partly because the Civic Association/neighborhood is too cheap to have their own trash cans and waste disposal and want a business that generates practically none of the garbage to deal with the garbage. I mean, I completely sympathetic about the noise issue, but there's a really easy way to get around that. File a complaint with the city for a behavior that clearly violates the city ordinances for noise.

I really don't understand why people think they should have a right to micromanage everything that goes on in their neighborhood, whether that be how businesses operate within the law or how residents behave within the law. If you really wanted to live somewhere where you didn't have to be bothered by what your neighbors are doing you shouldn't be living in the city. At the very least don't try to strong-arm concessions out of everyone around you who you have a disagreement with and instead use the already available and established channels to get the stuff done that you want done, or do it yourself.

[LUCas]

haven't noticed, usually walk by and see the pizza trash.

Look closer. It's the trash spilling out of their own dumpsters more than anything.

and the problems with jackhammering aren't their problem

How is it not? If they hire someone, and tell them to work only after the store is closed, how is that not their problem or responsibility? Especially after numerous people called and complained to the regional manager and VP of construction numerous times about the middle of the night construction?

if you don't care about them, why should they care about you?

Are you retarded? They shouldn't not disturb their neighbors and fill it with trash because I don't like that and want them to go away so it stops.

I suspect they're all related. lack of money leads to lack of investment, uncertain future leads to tough to retain or acquire talent. if the parent becomes healthy, I suspect it will show in the stores.

How much money does it cost to pick up the trash in the parking lot, or lock your dumpster fences so people don't use it as a toilet? Considering my dealings with corporate, they're worse than the management at this store. I suspect nothing will change until they go out of business.