Wisconsin (and Ohio?) solidarity rally Thursday, anti budget cut rally Saturday

**rossl** · 02-22-2011, 05:51 PM

There are two events in downtown Philly this week against austerity and against pro-corporate policies. The first is a rally, endorsed by several unions, at City Hall on Thursday at 11 AM in solidarity with workers in Wisconsin (although the attacks on collective bargaining and the power of unions, those last bastions of working class power, are now spreading to Ohio: Labor Protests to Defend Collective Bargaining Rights Spread to Ohio... ). The second rally is at the Comcast building, and the message is this: collect corporate taxes, don't cut programs that the poor and middle class need!

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Rally in solidarity with the workers of Wisconsin!

11:30, Thursday, February 24

Municipal Services Building Plaza

15th & JFK Blvd
(across from City Hall and LOVE Park)

Philadelphia

?"Today I stand with the teachers, nurses, and all public employees of Wisconsin who are fighting for their rights."

Sponsored by local unions and allies.

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At approximately Noon, we are planning to protest outside of Comcast's Headquarters at 1701 John F. Kennedy Blvd in resistance to their dodging taxes and using NBC to spout propaganda in favor of cuts to public services.

For locating its Headquarters in Center City, Comcast was given 42.75 million dollars from the State, and pays no taxes for the first 10 years. The construction firm that built the Headquarters, Liberty Property Trust, received 30 million dollars from the State. These subsidies and tax cuts could save the AdultBasic program that Governor Corbett has gutted, which provided over 45,000 low-income Pennsylvanians with health insurance.

Other details on Comcast's malfeasance are forthcoming.

Contact details

Please RSVP with: usuncutphilly@gmail.com

twitter: @usuncutphilly

Philadelphia, PA, Sat Feb 26th 2011 | US Uncut

**fiveomar** · 02-22-2011, 10:35 PM

Get this pro-union stuff off here. We're smarter than that.

**mixiboi** · 02-22-2011, 10:49 PM

Its fun that we have our own "revolution" protest going on here in the good old USofA.

Pro-union website blocked in Wisconsin Capitol - CNN.com

Workers' protests swell in Midwest as budget battles continue - CNN.com

**Braveheart** · 02-22-2011, 11:23 PM

I saw where real MD's were at the protest selling "sick" notes to the protesters, while the cameras are getting good face
shots of anybody and everybody for the evening news.
The poor dears can't afford to pay 6% towards their retirement.

**Geno** · 02-23-2011, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Braveheart

I saw where real MD's were at the protest selling "sick" notes to the protesters, while the cameras are getting good face
shots of anybody and everybody for the evening news.
The poor dears can't afford to pay 6% towards their retirement.

I thought they agreed to pay that? We pay 7.5 percent here in PA.

**Braveheart** · 02-23-2011, 04:44 PM

I'll have to confirm but that's what I saw on the news the other night. There was talk of action against the doctors which
there should be if they're doing it in public imo.
Maybe they agreed and I missed it.

**Finch** · 02-23-2011, 04:47 PM

where do all of these "its worth it to spend money on X" people come from

Just because there is a great deal on a new Porsche for 30K if i only have 5K I can't buy the Porsche.

Public unions should be illegal and the whole us should adopt "right to work"

**ShoshTrvls** · 02-23-2011, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Braveheart

I'll have to confirm but that's what I saw on the news the other night. There was talk of action against the doctors which
there should be if they're doing it in public imo.
Maybe they agreed and I missed it.

Ugh ... you've bought into another set up by a conservative group, created for the idiots who watch Faux News to eat up.

Daily Kos: Conservatives ginning up 'fake doctor's excuse' handout story at Wisconsin protests

Money Quote:

Hartsock [the guy in the "news" video talking about how he was handed a fake doctor's note] directed the undercover investigation video Teachers Unions Gone Wild . . . [and] produced B-roll for James O'Keefe's and Hannah Giles' investigation videos that brought down ACORN. . . . He currently writes for several news and commentary websites, including Big Government and Big Journalism, and is Editor-in-Chief of Political Vanguard.

**mixiboi** · 02-23-2011, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Finch

Public unions should be illegal

Sounds like this:

**Finch** · 02-23-2011, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by mixiboi

Sounds like this:

you missed "public"

besides govement BS like the EEOC and OSHA (arguably established by Union pressure) have long since made Unions redundant

not that i have a problem with some good old fashion union busting

**gren** · 02-23-2011, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Finch

you missed "public"

besides govement BS like the EEOC and OSHA (arguably established by Union pressure) have long since made Unions redundant

not that i have a problem with some good old fashion union busting

Because all employers follow EEOA and OSHA and the government has enough inspectors for perfect enforcement... Not that either of those cover wages or benefits for employees.

As for public unions, it strikes me that the problem is governments that agree to stupid terms. The problem isn't that unions exist or bargain for their workers.

**Finch** · 02-23-2011, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by gren

Because all employers follow EEOA and OSHA and the government has enough inspectors for perfect enforcement... Not that either of those cover wages or benefits for employees.

As for public unions, it strikes me that the problem is governments that agree to stupid terms. The problem isn't that unions exist or bargain for their workers.

wage and benefits are not the governments problem

its up to the individual to negotiate their own comp package or find somewhere else

**ShoshTrvls** · 02-23-2011, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Finch

you missed "public"

besides govement BS like the EEOC and OSHA (arguably established by Union pressure) have long since made Unions redundant

not that i have a problem with some good old fashion union busting

I think you need a friendly reminder of what happened almost exactly 100 years ago -- and why unions, and those "BS" government regulations, are important:

HistoryBuff.com -- History Library -- The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire

**Braveheart** · 02-23-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by ShoshTrvls

Ugh ... you've bought into another set up by a conservative group, created for the idiots who watch Faux News to eat up.

Daily Kos: Conservatives ginning up 'fake doctor's excuse' handout story at Wisconsin protests

Money Quote:

Aye I understand. You mean like the idiots who click on faux links to your faux law firm. Makes sense to me.

**gren** · 02-23-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Finch

wage and benefits are not the governments problem

its up to the individual to negotiate their own comp package or find somewhere else

What? Obviously wages and benefits are a government problem if the government is the employer.

And individuals can negotiate or they can form unions to negotiate on their behalf.

**Sailaway** · 02-23-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by ShoshTrvls

I think you need a friendly reminder of what happened almost exactly 100 years ago -- and why unions, and those "BS" government regulations, are important:

HistoryBuff.com -- History Library -- The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire

A case for fire regulations - but not for unions.

P.S. The current state of the country is example enough why unions are a bad idea.

**gren** · 02-23-2011, 07:31 PM

Why do you need a case for unions? Unions might be good for workers or they might not. They might be bad for companies or they might not. What does this matter when workers have the right to form associations to bargain on their behalf. The union can screw them but if they elect them that's their right. Just like the government can screw you but if you elect them it's your government.

**Finch** · 02-23-2011, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by gren

What? Obviously wages and benefits are a government problem if the government is the employer.

And individuals can negotiate or they can form unions to negotiate on their behalf.

I am good at what I do and I do not need someone to negotiate for me.

**Braveheart** · 02-23-2011, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sailaway

P.S. The current state of the country is example enough why unions are a bad idea.

I know what you mean especially with the abuse Philly unions have rained on the Convention Center clients. But I see
where the few factories left are almost exclusively staffed by new immigrants. An old friend works at a small specialty
shop covered by the Steelworkers and they make windows for Caterpillar and rail cars, but if not for the union it would go
immigrant PRONTO.

**Sailaway** · 02-23-2011, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by gren

Why do you need a case for unions? Unions might be good for workers or they might not. They might be bad for companies or they might not. What does this matter when workers have the right to form associations to bargain on their behalf. The union can screw them but if they elect them that's their right. Just like the government can screw you but if you elect them it's your government.

So, you have two layers of douches working for themselves, pretending to be on your side, forcing you to do things their way, and taxing your paycheck.

As if one isn't bad enough.