Old City Custom Concrete LIED To Me

[ArcticSplash]

Back when BanditProject first started, I had an exchange with an employee of Old City Custom Concrete on Twitter.



Then they agreed they would stop putting up new bandit signs.

Well, it looks like they LIED. Here's a new one right by the 7-11 on Girard Ave.

[ArcticSplash]

If you want to tell Olde City Custom Concrete how you feel, please feel free to send them a message on Twitter.


Their handle: @OCCConcrete

Their Twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/OCCConcrete

[ArcticSplash]

[ArcticSplash]

And now Ms. Concrete deleted her Twitter account.

[fiveomar]

Another possible strategy: take their own bandit signs and glue them to their place of business/residence.

[Beer is good]

Just took one down at Large and Wakeling while walking my dogs. Not a cheap sign to be only hung six feet off the ground

[sharkey]

I wonder if there is a way that they could lose their Phila. Business License as a contractor for violating 10-1202?

[ArcticSplash]

I wonder if there is a way that they could lose their Phila. Business License as a contractor for violating 10-1202?

The law firm my attorney works for has been toying with that question for a while now.

[ShoshTrvls]

The law firm my attorney works for has been toying with that question for a while now.

Why do you need a lawyer? Is someone suing you?

[loveisnoise]

See, now this is what happens. I think some one has to read the book "The Wave".

First it started out by knocking down signs to cost money for those who put up trivial little signs. Nothing wrong with that.
Then it was to contact politicians to make sure signs didn't become illegal. Good job.
Then some press. Egocentric, but whatever.
Then searching public records to harass people. Getting a bit iffy.
Calling people names and obviously harassing a woman every 2 minutes with tweets and phone calls? Borderline criminal.
Sending odd letters to community groups for support of the one man band? Czar like and bizarre-that's their description, not mine.

And now the masses wish to make a business lose their license over what amounts to a ticketable offense to the tune of $75?! Have you all lost your mind?! At that rate, any business in philly would be privy to some kangaroo court-which is already the case, but obviously none of you have businesses in Philly or you wouldn't be so asinine as to suggest something like this. Competition will be trying to kill competition just by throwing up some competitor's signs and waiting for the city to kill them off.

[Worm]

Amen!

[sharkey]

[QUOTE=loveisnoise;489822]See, now this is what happens. I think some one has to read the book "The Wave".

First it started out by knocking down signs to cost money for those who put up trivial little signs. Nothing wrong with that.
Then it was to contact politicians to make sure signs didn't become illegal. Good job.
Then some press. Egocentric, but whatever.
Then searching public records to harass people. Getting a bit iffy.
Calling people names and obviously harassing a woman every 2 minutes with tweets and phone calls? Borderline criminal.
Sending odd letters to community groups for support of the one man band? Czar like and bizarre-that's their description, not mine.

And now the masses wish to make a business lose their license over what amounts to a ticketable offense to the tune of $75?! Have you all lost your mind?! At that rate, any business in philly would be privy to some kangaroo court-which is already the case, but obviously none of you have businesses in Philly or you wouldn't be so asinine as to suggest something like this. Competition will be trying to kill competition just by throwing up some competitor's signs and waiting for the city to kill them off.[/QUOTE

Far from being a "one man band," Arctic is only the most dedicated of us sharks. The statutory fine is $75 plus the cost of removal PER SIGN. I dare you to find a sign spammer that only puts up one or two signs, so we are talking about considerable money. Most of them put up hundreds. Searching public records to find the people behind the degradation of out neighborhoods is necessary because they usually hide behind Google numbers and answering services. I call to complain each time I take down an offending sign. If the bastard put up 40 signs in my neighborhood, I have the right to tell him how I feel about each and every one of them, so he gets 40 calls.

[loveisnoise]

So- my best defense against an opposing business is to promote them with bandit signs and the inner web slayers will be my suckers and shut them down. Cool!

[sharkey]

Love, is it fair to the businesses that advertise through legitimate methods that their competitors, rather than spend the money for those same legitimate methods of advertising, can simply degrade our environment with their illegal signs? How about if one of them doesn't want to spend money for signs and just starts spray painting their message on buildings? Any problem with that? You should study the broken window theory. Seemingly minor transgressions of the social order/vioaltions of law lead to a lack of respect for the law in general and the decline of neighborhoods. In my area, more and more of the Bandits seem to be getting the idea that we won't tolerate it and that their signs won't stay up long, and I see less being put up.

[loveisnoise]

Typical. Like I said, this is wave mentality.

I plainly said that I agreed with the march against bandit signs- but to suggest a loss of a business over it is absurd in this city.

Love, is it fair to the businesses that advertise through legitimate methods that their competitors, rather than spend the money for those same legitimate methods of advertising, can simply degrade our environment with their illegal signs? How about if one of them doesn't want to spend money for signs and just starts spray painting their message on buildings? Any problem with that? You should study the broken window theory. Seemingly minor transgressions of the social order/vioaltions of law lead to a lack of respect for the law in general and the decline of neighborhoods. In my area, more and more of the Bandits seem to be getting the idea that we won't tolerate it and that their signs won't stay up long, and I see less being put up.

[Gladys]

See, now this is what happens. I think some one has to read the book "The Wave".

First it started out by knocking down signs to cost money for those who put up trivial little signs. Nothing wrong with that.
Then it was to contact politicians to make sure signs didn't become illegal. Good job.
Then some press. Egocentric, but whatever.
Then searching public records to harass people. Getting a bit iffy.
Calling people names and obviously harassing a woman every 2 minutes with tweets and phone calls? Borderline criminal.
Sending odd letters to community groups for support of the one man band? Czar like and bizarre-that's their description, not mine.

And now the masses wish to make a business lose their license over what amounts to a ticketable offense to the tune of $75?! Have you all lost your mind?! At that rate, any business in philly would be privy to some kangaroo court-which is already the case, but obviously none of you have businesses in Philly or you wouldn't be so asinine as to suggest something like this. Competition will be trying to kill competition just by throwing up some competitor's signs and waiting for the city to kill them off.

thank you because this is over the top. maybe business was bad and they had to try and stir some up, saw other signs up and did it. until there is a universal commitment by the city to enforce the law people will do this.

I don't like them but you really are harassing this woman and trying to close her business because of this little offense is insane. There are much worse things you could put your ample intelligence and resources towards, punishing someone for "lying" to you would be a full time job in this world. You don't know the circumstances.

[OffenseTaken]

Your slippery-slope argument is sitting on a big fat slippery slope. This argument could be used to justify any punishment for any infraction.

These bandit signs are a ****ing irritating nuisance, and as we've seen, not even the people who put them up can publicly defend the practice. But, Jesus. Get a hold of yourself! Think about the ramifications for a second of a business losing its license: that means not just the douchey owner who wanted to put the sign up loses his job, but all his employees too. Except he's probably got other sources of income while they (and their kids) don't. The blood's on the business's hands, you say? Someone else would have agreed: Draco (lawgiver) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm glad I don't live in a city where bare utility poles (and all the high-fives you all give each other) are considered worth that kind of punishment. Next time you go over the speed limit or step out front with a beer in your hand, you should be glad we don't live in that kind of city, either.

Love, is it fair to the businesses that advertise through legitimate methods that their competitors, rather than spend the money for those same legitimate methods of advertising, can simply degrade our environment with their illegal signs? How about if one of them doesn't want to spend money for signs and just starts spray painting their message on buildings? Any problem with that? You should study the broken window theory. Seemingly minor transgressions of the social order/vioaltions of law lead to a lack of respect for the law in general and the decline of neighborhoods. In my area, more and more of the Bandits seem to be getting the idea that we won't tolerate it and that their signs won't stay up long, and I see less being put up.

[loveisnoise]

Sharkey- ummm, how long have you lived in this city? Ad agencies have been spray painting ads on the side of walls for years as a fad. Even the federal gov had an ad spray painted on walls- where was anyone when I complained? Oh yeah- it was 'no big deal'.

[QUOTE=sharkey;489861]

See, now this is what happens. I think some one has to read the book "The Wave".

First it started out by knocking down signs to cost money for those who put up trivial little signs. Nothing wrong with that.
Then it was to contact politicians to make sure signs didn't become illegal. Good job.
Then some press. Egocentric, but whatever.
Then searching public records to harass people. Getting a bit iffy.
Calling people names and obviously harassing a woman every 2 minutes with tweets and phone calls? Borderline criminal.
Sending odd letters to community groups for support of the one man band? Czar like and bizarre-that's their description, not mine.

And now the masses wish to make a business lose their license over what amounts to a ticketable offense to the tune of $75?! Have you all lost your mind?! At that rate, any business in philly would be privy to some kangaroo court-which is already the case, but obviously none of you have businesses in Philly or you wouldn't be so asinine as to suggest something like this. Competition will be trying to kill competition just by throwing up some competitor's signs and waiting for the city to kill them off.[/QUOTE

Far from being a "one man band," Arctic is only the most dedicated of us sharks. The statutory fine is $75 plus the cost of removal PER SIGN. I dare you to find a sign spammer that only puts up one or two signs, so we are talking about considerable money. Most of them put up hundreds. Searching public records to find the people behind the degradation of out neighborhoods is necessary because they usually hide behind Google numbers and answering services. I call to complain each time I take down an offending sign. If the bastard put up 40 signs in my neighborhood, I have the right to tell him how I feel about each and every one of them, so he gets 40 calls.

[sharkey]

[QUOTE=loveisnoise;489871]Sharkey- ummm, how long have you lived in this city? Ad agencies have been spray painting ads on the side of walls for years as a fad. Even the federal gov had an ad spray painted on walls- where was anyone when I complained? Oh yeah- it was 'no big deal'.

I must have missed that--I've lived here 46 years.

[loveisnoise]

I'm on my phone right now but I'll provide Picts and links tomorrow. I fought like crazy and now the stuff is mostly gone- but I always went straight to the ad agency rather than the individual.



I must have missed that--I've lived here 46 years.[/QUOTE]