Another Proposal for 19th and Arch

[kidphilly]

Not ACC

Not Residential

Could it be an actual office tower


Liberty eyes new tower - Philadelphia Business Journal

[Volanova]

But will the gray hair NIMBY's kill it? It may cast a shadow on their potted plant.

[kidphilly]

But will the gray hair NIMBY's kill it? It may cast a shadow on their potted plant.

think this is far enough away the potted plants should be fine

[thoth]

Don't think there's anything for them to kill. A 27 story tower in a hypermax zoning area seems like it would float through L&I.

[Volanova]

Don't think there's anything for them to kill. A 27 story tower in a hypermax zoning area seems like it would float through L&I.

I never underestimate the political powers of the geriatrics in the high rise apartments in those areas.

[raider.adam]

I never underestimate the political powers of the geriatrics in the high rise apartments in those areas.

They get like 90% voter turnout in the buildings.

[thoth]

Didn't the ACC pass zoning?

[BenDee]

Didn't the ACC pass zoning?

Yes, I believe the space is still pre-zoned for 2.2 million square feet, although I don't know how the new code would affect it.

While I'm ecstatic to see a large office tower go up, I'm surprised it is only 27 stories / 400,000 square feet given the land went for $40 million. I expected something between 500,000-1m sq ft.

[Cro Burnham]

Yes, I believe the space is still pre-zoned for 2.2 million square feet, although I don't know how the new code would affect it.

While I'm ecstatic to see a large office tower go up, I'm surprised it is only 27 stories / 400,000 square feet given the land went for $40 million. I expected something between 500,000-1m sq ft.

Don't worry - that was a different site (at SE corner). This site is much smaller, at the NW corner, just south of the Academy of Nat History. A 27-story, ~400 foot tall building would look very good here - about the same height as One Logan Square.

I'm sure LPT has much bigger plans in store for the former ACC site. Perhaps they have a longer-term strategy of trying to fill out the fringes of the area with smaller projects until the area has enough critical mass to support a monster project that is a genuine extension north of the business core along Market Street.

[kidphilly]

Don't worry - that was a different site (at SE corner). This site is much smaller, at the NW corner, just south of the Academy of Nat History. A 27-story, ~400 foot tall building would look very good here - about the same height as One Logan Square.

I'm sure LPT has much bigger plans in store for the former ACC site. Perhaps they have a longer-term strategy of trying to fill out the fringes of the area with smaller projects until the area has enough critical mass to support a monster project that is a genuine extension north of the business core along Market Street.

we can hope - would love to see something at least say 800 ft in the ACC location and with a W at 15th and Chestnut that looks to be in the 600 ft range some nice additions. Lets hope projects are back and with Cira South looking more promising a real change to skyline could be happening

[John Goodman]

So will this be mostly occupied by Comcast? That's the last rumor I heard

[kidphilly]

So will this be mostly occupied by Comcast? That's the last rumor I heard

Do you mean the old ACC property or this new development?

I heard the ACC lot for the Comcast expansion

[phillyboy]

I never underestimate the political powers of the geriatrics in the high rise apartments in those areas.

That's because the older you get, the smarter you get.

[AbortedWalrus]

That's because the older you get, the smarter you get.

Unfortunately all of your smarts are 20-30 years out of style by the time you get them.

[eldondre]

Unfortunately all of your smarts are 20-30 years out of style by the time you get them.

nimbyism never went out of style