Women on Septa--watch out!

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 01:12 AM

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 07:55 AM

KDay, you have made me realize that my next exhibit shall be called "SEPTA PERV". As a reward, I will treat you to a beer. You can take the 25 to Johnny Brenda's, where I will expose myself to you, grope you, and take your picture. Thankyou for your support.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by szekely

Sorry that this happened. It's good you caught him on "film". Will show to the wife.
Thanks.

Here is my picture you can show your wife since I'm often on the 25. Should be on it around 10am to take pictures and go see a movie.

**billpa** · 08-15-2012, 08:14 AM

That's now the second time I've seen someone grope a can of New England Clam Chowder.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by billpa

That's now the second time I've seen someone grope a can of New England Clam Chowder.

You should see what I do to broccoli cheddar. raaaawwwwwrrrr.

**darthsinatra** · 08-15-2012, 08:31 AM

It's officially a trend now

Police seek man in pervert spree in S. Philadelphia - Philly.com

**kday** · 08-15-2012, 08:43 AM

-As a victim of sexual assault, this incident may seem innocent to you, but it was not to me. I was very scared
-This man was not an amateur photographer. He was yelling and threatening.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by kday

-As a victim of sexual assault, this incident may seem innocent to you, but it was not to me. I was very scared
-This man was not an amateur photographer. He was yelling and threatening.

Oh please. Yeah, you might get molested on a septa bus by a guy seats away? Stay indoors if you wish to be a sheepish drama queen.
He was yelling because you began to make a big deal about it and tried to get him in trouble for doing nothing other than taking a picture. I can understand that it might be irritating to have a photo taken; that's human nature. I also am relying on your version of events, which alone are overly dramatic and obviously due to your psychological disposition of feeling like a victim that must empower themselves. Golf clap. You stopped a non-issue. You are woman and I hear you roar. Now, back to the program.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 08:50 AM

**InYourVacancies** · 08-15-2012, 08:55 AM

Speaking as a photographer, the guy crossed a line. Street photo's are one thing (Loveisnoise, yours are awesome, wouldn't mind seeing more). If he was a legit photographer, he should have had the brain to explain that he was doing it for artistic reasons, as opposed to flying off the handle. That kind of thing makes any of us with a camera look like a creep.

We DO have the right to photograph anyone in a public space, but we also have the obligation to be respectful about it. If anyone asks me not to take their picture, I respect there wishes and won't do it. If someone questions what I'm doing, I simply explain it.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 09:03 AM

I take about 400 photos a week. I'll give you an example similar to this thread, that actually had nothing to do with a camera.

I'm on the 57 bus. I just downloaded a new yelp app on my phone. In it, there's an easter egg that lets you look through your iphone, turn it, and little bubbles come up on the screen to show you where business are. They're placed over the moving images through the phone's camera.

Next thing I know, there's a woman up at the bus driver yelling that I'm taking pictures of her and her daughter with my phone, yada yada yada. It's a bus. It's loud. I smile and yell(since it is loud) would you like to see what is on my screen? I'm not taking pictures, it's an app". She yells "See he has an app to do this stuff, he's a pervert! Call the police!!!" At that point I say that she's crazy, the bus driver tells me he's calling for police intervention, I call him an idiot, and since I was only 2 blocks away from my stop I flipped him my business card called them both some choice names and told them that when the cops come and do their thorough investigation, I'll be at the address on the business card.

People get hellbent off of nothing. I've seen so many people blow up on SEPTA before the opposing person can even get a word in. That's why incidents like this rise so quickly.

Originally Posted by InYourVacancies

Speaking as a photographer, the guy crossed a line. Street photo's are one thing (Loveisnoise, yours are awesome, wouldn't mind seeing more). If he was a legit photographer, he should have had the brain to explain that he was doing it for artistic reasons, as opposed to flying off the handle. That kind of thing makes any of us with a camera look like a creep.

We DO have the right to photograph anyone in a public space, but we also have the obligation to be respectful about it. If anyone asks me not to take their picture, I respect there wishes and won't do it. If someone questions what I'm doing, I simply explain it.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 09:13 AM

Not an artsy shot since I quickly took this with my cellphone, but it is funny and on the septa people website, somewhere.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 09:24 AM

The top one is unique because the shadow on the train is actually a graffiti piece, and the guy is a very strange man that rides the el and collects free papers every day.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 09:26 AM

This one is funny, even though not great shots. The top one was taken on my way home on th 25. The guy had a hospital band on and blood on his clothes. Two days later I see him at a bar making out with two girls and spending money like a madman. Had at least 3k in his pocket and was blowing it like he found it. I really wanted to ask him what the deal was.

**guzzijason** · 08-15-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

Had at least 3k in his pocket and was blowing it like he found it. I really wanted to ask him what the deal was.

You were too busy groping him to ask?

__Jason

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by guzzijason

You were too busy groping him to ask?

__Jason

Actually, he was humping me... but let's not get into details here.

**Moth** · 08-15-2012, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by kday

-As a victim of sexual assault, this incident may seem innocent to you, but it was not to me. I was very scared
-This man was not an amateur photographer. He was yelling and threatening.

Your response is very understandable especially given your experiences, but if you can, try to understand the "potential gropers" "the pervert eyeing you up" or perhaps the "innocent bus riding photographer glancing at a pretty girl" predicament. Instead of telling him "Dont take my picture" and simply walking away the saga became tense when you went to the septa authority, the situation was enflamed by you imo.

Maybe the guys intention was a little creepy but maybe just perhaps he was an urbanist photographer. You have to give him the benefit of the doubt, you can't go on the internet showing his photo and calling him a groper or pervert imo. You do thta to the wrong person and you are going to end up in court and getting sued.

For every 1 pervert out there, there are probably 100 innocent photographers enjoying their hobby.

I wish you the best but if the situation ever happens again be vigilant but just say What are you doing I dont want my picture taken, and walk away.

**Captain Awesome** · 08-15-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

This one is funny, even though not great shots. The top one was taken on my way home on th 25. The guy had a hospital band on and blood on his clothes. Two days later I see him at a bar making out with two girls and spending money like a madman. Had at least 3k in his pocket and was blowing it like he found it. I really wanted to ask him what the deal was.

This guy is truly living the American dream.

**loveisnoise** · 08-15-2012, 10:22 AM

This is what happens when I get caught taking someone's photo... wish this picture turned out better, but we hit a bright spot during an overcast day and I wasn't set up properly for the shot.