Peco employee lies - on film

[Dayman]

Oh look everyone loveisnoise is going to tell us all he knows about the utility industry.

Which he's worked in all his life.


Let's pull up a chair and listen to his sage words.

Will you two just f*ck already and get it over with?

[The Pope]

I'm just confused at this point...how did a conversation on Smart Meters (and the majority opinion that this is a poorly constructed conspiracy theory) turn into LIN poking at the new kid about filming?

Because he ( loveisnoise )has a piss pore attitude cannot accept the fact that he is wrong , continues to spin the thread due to the fact that any idea that might not fit in his box ,is the ramblings of an idiot. If I am so be it , who sits around tries to disprove a moron by insulting his intellect and questions my profession ?

I have put forth a video , that involves a controversial issue thru out the United States , that effect every one to some extent. It involves a tech lying to
a customer , is he lying , or has he been spoon feed the speech from higher up ? " No , it is not a smart meter is a lie " The lady on the phone had to be ask
3 times before she said it is a smart meter.Simply put it just does not sit right with alot of people across this country.
Take it for what it is .
If we can discuss the matter great , if not , get some batteries or one of those wind up numbers.

* Smart meters, also known as AMI, or advanced metering infrastructure, give PECO fuller information about customers’ hourly power consumption by transmitting that info to the utility. Because they employ two-way radio transmissions, the meters allow the utility to remotely disconnect or reconnect power, communicate power outages and restorations and upgrade service as technology grows.

How do you upgrade electricity ?


"Mom's, the studio, or your mom's bed" and you half to ask

[ShoshTrvls]

They need to get at least close to my property , and would be impossible to shut down the entire eastern sea board much less North America as it stands now without sending techs out ,

Tell that to India, where I do not believe fancy schmancy smart meters are in regular use. Seems their grid was (involuntarily, alas) shut down without techs visiting every building. See, also, Northeast Blackout of 2003. Figure it out: if the power grid can shut vast swaths of North America when it gets overloaded, it can also be shut down intentionally.

[The Pope]

Tell that to India, where I do not believe fancy schmancy smart meters are in regular use. Seems their grid was (involuntarily, alas) shut down without techs visiting every building. See, also, Northeast Blackout of 2003. Figure it out: if the power grid can shut vast swaths of North America when it gets overloaded, it can also be shut down intentionally.

You are correct , however neither were induced at the flick of a switch , they booth seem to point to overloads and both had dramatic consequence. Not to mention the smart meter will not prevent this from happening unless someone "shuts down entire areas to help ease the system" Todays system is not as precise either and requires much more time and physical man power.
We are now going to be on a single system than can crash , get hacked or simpley turned off at will. The New York black out in 1977 , and rioting that took place is a good example of what happens when the lights go down.
The black out in NY was a great example. Cash became scarce quick , all ATM were out , the barter system and looting started with in hours. People were forced to the streets due to the extreme heat , a car over the bridges was the only way out other than a boat due to the metro going depending on electricity.
In other words complete panic and chaos set in Quick!
This is only one of many many possibilities that may go aginst having the smart meter system in place , there are many worse cases, what are we gaining
by adding monitors and removing perfectly good meters ?
Why the lies ? It is not just the guy at my door , call , stop and ask a tech when you pass by, "Is that a smart meter ?" the answer will be NOPE
The system can be cracked , and click

[Naveen]

You are correct , however neither were induced at the flick of a switch , they booth seem to point to overloads and both had dramatic consequence. Not to mention the smart meter will not prevent this from happening unless someone "shuts down entire areas to help ease the system" Todays system is no as precise either and requires much more time and physical man power.
We are now going to be on a single system than can crash , get hacked or simple turned off at will. The New York black out in 1977 , and rioting that took place is a good example of what happens when the lights go down.
The black out in NY was a great example. Cash became scarce quick , all ATM were out , the barter system and looting started with in hours. People were forced to the streets due to the extreme heat , a car over the bridges was the only way out other than a boat due to the metro going depending on electricity.
In other words complete panic and chaos set in Quick!
This is only one of many many possibilities that can possibly go aginst having the smart meter
simply put the system can be cracked , and click

Interesting that you ignore the blackout of 2003, where none of that happened.

[The Pope]

Interesting that you ignore the blackout of 2003, where none of that happened.

It did happen New York , I was referring to 2003 , there were no ATMs in 1977 , nore was the city running on credit cards with electric locks

[loveisnoise]

Hey pope, can I show you a bit of your idiocy?

They need to get at least close to my property , and would be impossible to shut down the entire eastern sea board much less North America as it stands now without sending techs out ,when you are tied to a computer , that can do as they see fit at any given time. Why the rush in an election year ? Fear of riots ?
No lighty no fighty.

But then....

We are now going to be on a single system than can crash , get hacked or simpley turned off at will. The New York black out in 1977 , and rioting that took place is a good example of what happens when the lights go down.

So which one is it? "No lighty no fighty"?, or riots because of blackouts?

[The Pope]

Hey pope, can I show you a bit of your idiocy?

But then....

So which one is it? "No lighty no fighty"?, or riots because of blackouts?

Figure it out on your own ... its not difficult , I have given you factual answers to your exact questions that you do not accept or simply ignore.

Why have you not responded to the facts about the film industry, as an apology I will glad to accept you shut your pie hole on this any any other thread I might start , I in return will even give you the same curtsy .

Have you not eaten enough terd on this thread already ? However with your attitude I am sure you have had your jaw wired shut more than once and are used to sucking mush thru a straw.

[Sycamore]

Foul swoop and piss pore. Piss pore? Foul swoop? The images it conjures. Ugh.

IME, it's really hard to get electric service turned off when there are people living in a dwelling, but that has everything to do with PECO's policies and not it's ability to do so. They can certainly do so way before smart meters, yet they often refuse.

For instance, I've had more than a few estate properties occupied by squatters, sometimes family members, sometimes strangers. When I (as a representative of the owner of the property) attempted to get the utilities disconnected (in an attempt to get the squatters out and market the property, etc), PECO has always refused to do so unless I can prove that it's absolutely vacant. It's a bull**** policy. But, that's neither here nor there, I suspect.

Carry on.

[Sycamore]

Why have you not responded to the facts about the film industry, as an apology I will glad to accept you shut your pie hole on this any any other thread I might start , I in return will even give you the same curtsy .

I love a good curtsey, but my knees just can't handle it anymore.

[loveisnoise]

What facts? That I'm a published photographer who is currently working on two documentaries-and you are doing neither? I'm glad that you once tickled the taint of Philip Seymour Hoffman's stunt double once in your life, but that doesn't know that you mean diddly and you're really just covering your ass at this point.

You plainly stated that they are trying to prevent us from rioting by creating blackouts with these meters-then you said that blackouts cause riots. Can't have it both ways.

Figure it out on your own ... its not difficult , I have given you factual answers to your exact questions that you do not accept or simply ignore.

Why have you not responded to the facts about the film industry, as an apology I will glad to accept you shut your pie hole on this any any other thread I might start , I in return will even give you the same curtsy .

Have you not eaten enough terd on this thread already ? However with your attitude I am sure you have had your jaw wired shut more than once and are used to sucking mush thru a straw.

[The Pope]

Foul swoop and piss pore. Piss pore? Foul swoop? The images it conjures. Ugh. ... actually Foul was used as a pun , by why do you feel the need , to attack grammar ? How many languages can you speak ? How much can you bench press , how fast is your car .... its not the issue at hand .

"They can certainly do so way before smart meters, yet they often refuse. " They must come to the property or the pole

"PECO has always refused to do so unless I can prove that it's absolutely vacant. It's a bull**** policy. But, that's neither here nor there, I suspect. "

This is actually a reflection of a piss poor law in Philly as well , If a renter opens an account with the gas company , does not pay the bill , splits after 2 years of non payment , guess who is responsible ? The owner, not the gas or electric who has been providing the service for free. Its in the best interests of the provider gas / electric / water , Even if the owner does not cough up the money from the rental tenants , a lean is put on the home and the provider gets paid in the end. This is active tactic with the gas company and you can find many complaints on line. Sad but True - This has been in the news as of late as well .


"I love a good curtsey, but my knees just can't handle it anymore." Talking about images , yuck -
What dog of yours is in this fight or is loveisnoise the reason your knees are blown , I cant imagine it would take that long with your superb linguistics to drain a single ball.

[The Pope]

Back on topic . Whats with the big lies ?

[loveisnoise]

You
Holy crap you're horrible!!! Now you're just making up laws?! PECO has no such law or ability. PGW has the authority to lien the owner of the property only if they are not compliant with filling out a simple 3 minute form online.

This is actually a reflection of a piss poor law in Philly as well , If a renter opens an account with the gas company , does not pay the bill , splits after 2 years of non payment , guess who is responsible ? The owner, not the gas or electric who has been providing the service for free. Its in the best interests of the provider gas / electric / water , Even if the owner does not cough up the money from the rental tenants , a lean is put on the home and the provider gets paid in the end. This is active tactic with the gas company and you can find many complaints on line. Sad but True - This has been in the news as of late as well .


"I love a good curtsey, but my knees just can't handle it anymore." Talking about images , yuck -
What dog of yours is in this fight or is loveisnoise the reason your knees are blown , I cant imagine it would take that long with your superb linguistics to drain a single ball.

[loveisnoise]

He says 50 times that it is an AMI meter.

You tell him that old ladies will die and people will get cancer.

I'd say you are the one lying.

Back on topic . Whats with the big lies ?

[Volanova]

Because he ( loveisnoise )has a piss pore attitude cannot accept the fact that he is wrong , continues to spin the thread due to the fact that any idea that might not fit in his box ,is the ramblings of an idiot. If I am so be it , who sits around tries to disprove a moron by insulting his intellect and questions my profession ?

I have put forth a video , that involves a controversial issue thru out the United States , that effect every one to some extent. It involves a tech lying to
a customer , is he lying , or has he been spoon feed the speech from higher up ? " No , it is not a smart meter is a lie " The lady on the phone had to be ask
3 times before she said it is a smart meter.Simply put it just does not sit right with alot of people across this country.
Take it for what it is .
If we can discuss the matter great , if not , get some batteries or one of those wind up numbers.

* Smart meters, also known as AMI, or advanced metering infrastructure, give PECO fuller information about customers’ hourly power consumption by transmitting that info to the utility. Because they employ two-way radio transmissions, the meters allow the utility to remotely disconnect or reconnect power, communicate power outages and restorations and upgrade service as technology grows.

How do you upgrade electricity ?


"Mom's, the studio, or your mom's bed" and you half to ask

Except it's not a controversial issue except among a fringe crowd. Sort of like how the World Trade Center was knocked down by a few terrorists in a couple of airplanes, except among a fringe crowd. Or how the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist except among a fringe crowd.

Do you seriously not think that the power grid, methods of measuring power consumption, types of power generation, and the ability to control the power going through the lines cannot be upgraded? It's comments like that that make you look like a modern-day Luddite who hasn't actually researched anything, but rather just goes forth to various internet forums to regurgitate what you read on InfoWars.

And by the way, please do what you can to take your time when writing your posts. No one wants to try to sift through what your saying to try and make sense of it (or, at least attempt to make sense of nonsensical accusations).

[hkp]

OP, do you have meetings with govstatistic and gio? What kind of snacks do you guys like?

Conspiracy - PS admins are dosing your punch with lithium.

[The Pope]

He says 50 times that it is an AMI meter.

You tell him that old ladies will die and people will get cancer.

I'd say you are the one lying.

He also goes explains its not a smart meter , smart meter was 2 months ago ... etc ..
"Except it's not a controversial issue except among a fringe crowd. Sort of like how the World Trade Center was knocked down by a few terrorists in a couple of airplanes, except among a fringe crowd. Or how the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist except among a fringe crowd."

"The Ontario Energy Board put an abrupt ban on the use of "smart meters" in residential apartment buildings yesterday, sending a message to landlords who are increasingly off-loading the cost of electricity to their tenants."

Yes idiots the canadians are

"Ten counties in California have banned Smart Meters."
yes they are all hippies

you can do the rest

you kids enjoy the shower together now

[The Pope]

He says 50 times that it is an AMI meter.

You tell him that old ladies will die and people will get cancer.

I'd say you are the one lying.

Old people will die and get cancer .

[The Pope]

If you've been following the drama in Marin County and other parts of PG&E's California service territory it may come as no surprise that the Marin County Board of Supervisors voted this week to ban smart meter installations in unincorporated parts of the county for a year, citing concerns about potential health risks from the devices. Supervisors in Santa Cruz County took similar action in September.

Marin County Fringe ?