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    Default 1919 Market St. development

    An update on 1919 Market on philly.com: Top Philly landlord plans apartments on 3 big ex-office sites

    and online I found this rendering on a file dated this month: http://www.salove.com/wp-content/upl...kage_05.12.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanChick View Post
    An update on 1919 Market on philly.com: Top Philly landlord plans apartments on 3 big ex-office sites

    and online I found this rendering on a file dated this month: http://www.salove.com/wp-content/upl...kage_05.12.pdf
    the philly.com article says 4Q 2014, but the .pdf says 4Q 2013. which is it?

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    Given the timeframe needed for construction, I'd bet 2014.
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    I just heard from an inside source that the building may include 10 floors of office space to be leased to Independence Blue Cross (a sort of Blue Cross annex).

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    Sounds like it has an anchor retail tenant: Whole Foods says it will relocate Callowhill Street store

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryG View Post
    Sounds like it has an anchor retail tenant: Whole Foods says it will relocate Callowhill Street store
    But is 1919 Market actually 3 acres?

    The corporation did not disclose details or a precise location for what it described in a news release as an eventual 55,000-square-foot mixed-use development "a short distance away" on three acres.
    Like this huge lot on 19th & Buttonwood Streets?

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=509+N...nia+19130&z=19

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=509+N...34.85,,0,-8.61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayfar View Post
    But is 1919 Market actually 3 acres?



    Like this huge lot on 19th & Buttonwood Streets?

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=509+N...nia+19130&z=19
    Hmmm good catch on the 3 acres. Interestingly 55k is the number being thrown around for 1919 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryG View Post
    Hmmm good catch on the 3 acres. Interestingly 55k is the number being thrown around for 1919 too.
    I could be wrong. I don't have any good way to determine whether 1919 or the Buttonwood St lot is 3 acres, but I see 1919 Market is about half the size of the Buttonwood St lot when I bring both into view in arial view. And I think Buttonwood St best meets the qualifier "sort distance away."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayfar View Post
    I could be wrong. I don't have any good way to determine whether 1919 or the Buttonwood St lot is 3 acres, but I see 1919 Market is about half the size of the Buttonwood St lot when I bring both into view in arial view. And I think Buttonwood St best meets the qualifier "sort distance away."
    1919 Market is not even an acre. Buttonwood, I dunno, seems less than three acres as well. Yes it is closer but a Whole Foods makes a ton of sense at 1919 Market. Brandywine already said they are looking at supermarkets. We will see... either way, this is good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryG View Post
    1919 Market is not even an acre. Buttonwood, I dunno, seems less than three acres as well. Yes it is closer but a Whole Foods makes a ton of sense at 1919 Market. Brandywine already said they are looking at supermarkets. We will see... either way, this is good news.
    Yes, 1919 makes a lot of sense to me too, especially considering all the new apartments under construction within spitting distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryG View Post
    Hmmm good catch on the 3 acres. Interestingly 55k is the number being thrown around for 1919 too.
    Are there any multi-floor whole foods anywhere else in the country? You'd need it to be roughly 2.5 floors at 55k sq/ft to arrive at a 3 acre site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londoner View Post
    Are there any multi-floor whole foods anywhere else in the country? You'd need it to be roughly 2.5 floors at 55k sq/ft to arrive at a 3 acre site.
    just a thought but is there any space at SG abd Broad as part of what Blatstein is doing there (not the casino)

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    Quote Originally Posted by londoner View Post
    Are there any multi-floor whole foods anywhere else in the country? You'd need it to be roughly 2.5 floors at 55k sq/ft to arrive at a 3 acre site.
    A couple in NYC. The Columbus Circle location does a huge lunch business in addition to the grocery stuff. It's got a massive prepared foods section and a whole floor for seating. This style of WF would be great on Market Street.

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    Ben Dee has another theory for a Whole Foods location:

    http://www.philadelphiaspeaks.com/fo...tml#post547834
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    As I posted in the other thread, I'm guessing the big lot at 60 N. 23rd Street that's 3.05 acres:

    Google Maps

    1800 Buttonwood, while I can't find it in OPA, is about 2.1 acres.

    EDIT: Jayfar beat me to posting my theory! (shakes tiny fist at OPA website that can't find the Buttonwood property)

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    Quote Originally Posted by londoner View Post
    Are there any multi-floor whole foods anywhere else in the country? You'd need it to be roughly 2.5 floors at 55k sq/ft to arrive at a 3 acre site.
    Union Square in Manhattan.

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    I am pretty sure that lot at 19th and Buttonwood is the site of a proposed second museum towers development. Remember reading about it a while ago.

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    The article states they (WF) are not moving until 2017. Seems to rule out just about everything other than 1601 Vine - the old Grasso and now Mormon lot. The Mormon's have already said they are looking at a mixed use development complex. The orginal Grasso Plan had HF as a major tenant:

    http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/naked...1601-Vine.html

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    Interesting that the article says a "55,000 s.f. mixed use development". A typical Whole Foods is about 40-50k s.f. so if the development is indeed 55k of mixed use and Whole Foods is taking up nearly all of that space, that doesn't leave enough room for any other uses. Either it's not mixed use and the remaining space is going towards other retail tenants or it is mixed use and the 55k refers only to the retail component.

    I don't see them going to 1919. Besides the reasons stated above, it's too close to Trader Joes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly57 View Post
    Besides the reasons stated above, it's too close to Trader Joes.
    I don't think they're going to 1919 Market either, but that would actually be a good reason for them to go there. It's not for nothing that another Whole Foods (South St) is on the opposite corner from Super Fresh.
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